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What We’re Against

October 28, 2008 Leave a comment Go to comments

I recently reviewed the book “unChristian” and this is a post that flows out of that book, as well as from this post by morsecode on his blog.

The book mentions that it is a sad fact that that Christianity is defined more of what it is against, rather than what it stands for.  I believe there is a fine line to be walked here, but I couldn’t agree with the book more on this.  When people look at Christianity, they see as as anti-homosexual.  As I’ve stated, I do not agree with the homosexual lifestyle in the least, and its pretty broad across Christianity that we don’t stand for it either, but why does it stop there?  We’re against it, and offer no hope, love, or support as a universal church.  There are those ministries which are loving.  There are those churches that are loving.  But they are few and far between.  We’re embarrassed to deal with the issue, so we react that way.

What about sex?  We react the same way.  Those people who engage in promiscuous sex, they’re outcasts!  We don’t want to have anything to do with them.  We stand firmly against immoral sexual acts…and we should!  But why should we stop there?  Why should that be the absolute only thing that people see!  Why do we present it with such a hateful attitude?  Can’t we be against something with love.  Loving people without an agenda?  

We have no problem with divorced people.  When someone goes through a divorce – the church accepts that.  We are against it, but we accept them still…well, at least to their face.  The question is, how much do we care?  Do we show that we care?  

To quote morsecode’s blog about what atheists believe:

“We believe in optimism rather than pessimism, hope rather than despair, learning in the place of dogma, truth instead of ignorance, joy rather than guilt or sin, tolerance in the place of fear, love instead of hatred, compassion over selfishness, beauty instead of ugliness, and reason rather than blind faith or irrationality.”

Are we really pessimistic toward the lost and dying world?  How often do we present hope?  Do we challenge the people of our congregations to learn, or just absorb what we say and never actually make it personal?  Yes, let us preach sin and its negative effects, but the Lord brings joy to those who are forgiven.  What reactions do we have to homosexuality, pregnancy outside of marriage, divorce that arise out of fear?  We don’t necessarily have to “tolerate” the sin, but approach it with love.  And compassion – what a world of difference it would be to be a compassionate Christian toward every person.  Love without an agenda.

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  1. October 28, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    “Are we really pessimistic toward the lost and dying world?”

    Not to be a pain (I know I will be anyway), but isn’t calling/considering it a ‘lost and dying world’ pretty pessimistic to begin with?

    It’s a fundamental difference between us. I see it as a learning and growing world. Sure, there are stumbles backward along the way. And certainly there is always the potential for catastrophe, but what child doesn’t live with that possibility every day?

    I live with the hope that we’ll be able to survive the bumps and scratches and I will try my best to work to avoid any pitfalls.

    That may be a mixed metaphor. Sorry about that.

  2. October 28, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    I completely understand what you’re saying. I guess “lost and dying world” is “Christian-ese…”

    Good ole Cliches that are used without realizing it.

  3. October 28, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    Don’t jump away from it if it’s something you really believe. You just need to understand that, if it is something you really believe, then it is pessimistic.

  4. October 28, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    By lost and dying it is to say, “non-Christians.” That’s what I mean by that phrase. Thus, I realize I could probably phrase it better because it is a whole lot more pessimistic of a view.

    Some people though look at the world in a pessimistic light and think that good only happens inside the walls of their church that they attend…this is the error.

  5. October 28, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    Ouch, dude, very harsh.

    Harsh sounding, anyway. I’m glad to say I’m not lost, though I know you feel differently. And as for dying, we all die. Dying is our destiny…the only kind I believe in any way.

    Somewhat unrelated, there’s a great line from Stephen King about death:

    “You need not die happy, but you must die satisfied. For you have lived your life from beginning to end, and ka is always served.”

    ‘Ka’ being King’s word for destiny in his Dark Tower series. And like I said, I don’t believe in destiny, but the simple fact that we all must die is close enough for government work.

  6. Rickr0ll
    October 28, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    Well morsecode, there’a the ridiculously happy-go-lucky christians who think everything is sunshine and champagne, expecially regarding christ, and that i think is more irritating. To a point it’s delusional. I am a fan of Voltaire’s Candide, because it’a hilarious and points out many flaws of hoping for people to do the right and intelligent things; people need alot of coaxing and prodding to behave as they should, when it maters most at least. Not that they go out of thier way to destroy the world around them, it is mostly a lack of self awareness. I’m a nuetralist in short.

  7. October 30, 2008 at 11:22 am

    Well, to support Akers’ claim, but agree with morsecode in a sense, the world is advancing in a lot of ways. Even from creation (not the point of this reply) God said that the earth was “good.” He didn’t say “perfect”, he didn’t even say “finished” for all I remember. In the beginning, there is a garden. At the end, there is a city. A city is what happens when you live in a garden long enough. The world is not stagnant in it’s “lost and dying” sense, it’s changing and evolving to become what God wants it to be.

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